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Tommy Chang on the Four15 Podcast: Lessons From a First-Time Agency Founder

October 27, 2025

Our co-founder Tommy Chang recently joined the Four15 Digital Marketing Podcast to talk candidly about what it's really like to build and run a modern marketing agency from the ground up.

Over the course of a 48-minute conversation, Tommy shares the story behind Kreativa Group, from the decision to leave corporate life behind, to the day-to-day realities of agency ownership. He touches on how he thinks about balancing creative strategy with paid media execution, why sustainable growth matters more than fast growth, and what he's learned the hard way as a first-time founder.

It's an honest, grounded look at the business of marketing, not just the work itself, but how to build something worth keeping.

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